Orphan Rescue - 1st Grow - Ghettoest Of The Ghetto

[ShinSeiki]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

Update time!

Just made a 6.5 baking soda solution, watered, measured 6.3/6.5 runoff, might have helped the fact that tap water had a slightly higher pH today at 6.0.

Plant 1 has continued to show signs of burning, could the CFL's be too close? moved them further up a couple of inches to see i it helps

Plant 2 also has some signs of burning but seems to be holding up alot better.

 

[ShinSeiki]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

End of the month means i get to spend another few bucks, what do you think my next purchase should be? Should i get soil with better pH and attempt to move them? should i get more lights? Should i get a proper pH down from the smarshop? I am open to any and all sugestions!

 

[Dresney]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

Hmm, Shin. I wish I had some better answers about the color. Even with the proper pH range they're looking a bit yellow. I would be surprised if the CFLs were the culprit unless they were very, very close to/touching the leaves. My CFLs are literally ~2 inches from my plant's leaf tips and I haven't had any burn. One way to be sure they're not burning them is to hold your hand out by the leaves of your plant. The bulb only needs to be far enough away that you can't feel the heat on your hand.

The only thing I could think of is the soil having too many nutrients. I've read that compost can be very hot (nutrient-rich) and can cause seedlings to struggle. 68% compost might be too much. Maybe you could try cutting that soil down with some perlite and/or other inert medium. Perlite will also make your soil drain easier.

The general rule of thumb for feeding nutrients I've heard/read is not to feed until there are 5 nodes and 5 inches of growth. I don't think either of your babes are there yet, which is the only reason I don't think it's lack of food.

I'm going to think about it some more and maybe harass some wise minds to see if they can take a peek.

 

[BlueMntGrower]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

I am in...looking solid bro....

 

[ShinSeiki]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

Measured the chlorine, 0.4ppm, could this be the cause of the yellowing? already have some still samples of tap water and baking soda solution to see how time afects chlorine and pH.

 

[ShinSeiki]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

Update time!

Sunday 2/12 - Plant number 1 has continued to grow, but it's still very very yellow and the burns are spreading...

Plant number 2 is a slow grower, but it's looking alot better.

Wednesday, 04/12 - I Acidentally left one of the sockets off after i took some pictures so they got about 16 hours of half-strength light, to my surprise, i noticed the new growth had a healthy green colour, could the CFL's be burning my plant? i turned it back on to see what happens next.

First pic i took (after this starts half-light period)

16 hours of half-light later

Plus 10 hours of full light later.

I think the yellow is coming back i will keep the full lights on overnight to be sure, then i may think about repositioning the lights.

Plant 2 is looking great, she's a fighter!

Also, have a pH meter and ppm meter on the way, so by this time next week i will be able to give you acurate pH and ppm readings.

Thoughts?

 

[Dresney]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

Hmm. I don't feel like it's the CFLs. How far away are they and what are your temps like?

 

[ShinSeiki]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

About 2 inches, 82 degrees.

 

[Dresney]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

That's about the same as mine. And you have 3 45 watts and 1 40 watt?

Are you taking the temperature at the foliage level?

When you put your hand on the leaves do you feel the heat from the bulbs?

 

[ShinSeiki]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

Turned the fan off, i'm going to wait a half hour to see if it was messing with the temp results.

 

[ShinSeiki]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

That's about the same as mine. And you have 3 45 watts and 1 40 watt?

Are you taking the temperature at the foliage level?

When you put your hand on the leaves do you feel the heat from the bulbs?

Yes, total 130w, i'm taking it between the leaves and the bulbs and no, i can't feel the heat coming off them.

 

[Dresney]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

I keep my gauge in the pots. If I put it down at the bottom where the pots sit, it's about 5-8 degrees lower.

I'd keep the fan on if your temps are 82F.

 

[Dresney]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

Hmm, if you can't feel the heat with your hand than it's not too hot. My temps usually reach 82F and sit there unless I remove the panel and stare at them. That's not a bad temp.

I'm going to go with the soil being too nutrient-rich. I'm going to poke some people and see if they'll come take a look.

 

[ShinSeiki]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

I'd keep the fan on if your temps are 82F.

Yep, 5 minutes of no circulation caused a 10 degree increase, turned it right back on.

 

[Dresney]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

Can you give us the pH info of the water you've been using just so people won't have to go back to page 1 when they come? (I know they'll ask for it)

Thanks, Shin

 

[Jay233]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

Do you know the PH of the water you are using?

 

[Dresney]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

omg Jay and I are like... so connected.

You'll get it extra ha.... gonna stop that thought right there.

 

[Jay233]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

LOL Dres...good timing

 

[Dresney]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

This is the soil info copied from page 1:



Organic matter - 68.49%
pH- 5.5/6
Nitrogen - 1.33%
Fosphor - 0.69%
Potassium - 0.26%
Magnesium - 0.14%
Iron - 0.60%
Calcium - 2.69%
Max moisture - 40%

 

[ShinSeiki]

Re: Orphan rescue/1stGrow/Ghettoest of the ghetto

No problem! I'm using a baking soda solution to raise the pH from 6.0 (tap) to 6.8, adding to the 5.5 pH soil gives me a runnof in the 6.3-6.5 region.

Thank you dresney for pointing this out to me