Hope all is okay shed! 
Something extra to the conversation about feminised seed that I think it’s worth mentioning in this context:
Feminised seed can be made in more than one way; crossing 2 different female plants by reversing one of them (and these can be either from the same variety or from different varieties). It can also be done by ‘selfing’ which is usually described as crossing a clone with its mother, creating what’s called an S1. Both ways are ‘feminised’.
When the S1 seeds are then backcrossed with the original parent, they’re called S2, S3, etc.
We don’t actually know if the CD-1 is feminised in the first way or S1 feminised.
I’m pretty sure an S1 gen is similar in stability to F1, pretty stable and that S2, which involves backcrossing an offspring of S1 with the original mum, is like F2 and opens up the genetic pool to recessives . Like gray said, sometimes folks do this to look for recessive traits to try and bring into a line.
So when we buy feminised seed we mostly don’t know if it’s simple feminised, S1feminised, or worked down to a stable ‘F’ value and then selfed or if it was worked through the selfed line to produce a stable seed of some ‘S’ value.
Candida is a well stable chemovar and they spent some years stabilising it. It wouldn’t surprise me if it was a few generations into being stabilised - but really, unless the breeder shares this info, we have no idea where in the pathway of genetic work a seed is when it comes to us.
this is why I like breeders who say things like “S1 of an F8 stabilised hybrid” etc.
I’m not anywhere near an expert on breeding, just laying out what I know (from various sources) and how I think that effects us in terms of the seed we are lucky enough to get and what can be achieved with it. Which isn’t meant to mean that folks shouldn’t be having a ball working with seed making. Of course we should. I’m just getting into more about the details within that and what we can expect etc.
Something extra to the conversation about feminised seed that I think it’s worth mentioning in this context:
Feminised seed can be made in more than one way; crossing 2 different female plants by reversing one of them (and these can be either from the same variety or from different varieties). It can also be done by ‘selfing’ which is usually described as crossing a clone with its mother, creating what’s called an S1. Both ways are ‘feminised’.
When the S1 seeds are then backcrossed with the original parent, they’re called S2, S3, etc.
We don’t actually know if the CD-1 is feminised in the first way or S1 feminised.
I’m pretty sure an S1 gen is similar in stability to F1, pretty stable and that S2, which involves backcrossing an offspring of S1 with the original mum, is like F2 and opens up the genetic pool to recessives . Like gray said, sometimes folks do this to look for recessive traits to try and bring into a line.
So when we buy feminised seed we mostly don’t know if it’s simple feminised, S1feminised, or worked down to a stable ‘F’ value and then selfed or if it was worked through the selfed line to produce a stable seed of some ‘S’ value.
Candida is a well stable chemovar and they spent some years stabilising it. It wouldn’t surprise me if it was a few generations into being stabilised - but really, unless the breeder shares this info, we have no idea where in the pathway of genetic work a seed is when it comes to us.
this is why I like breeders who say things like “S1 of an F8 stabilised hybrid” etc.
I’m not anywhere near an expert on breeding, just laying out what I know (from various sources) and how I think that effects us in terms of the seed we are lucky enough to get and what can be achieved with it. Which isn’t meant to mean that folks shouldn’t be having a ball working with seed making. Of course we should. I’m just getting into more about the details within that and what we can expect etc.
), Penny said the seeds would be considered S1since the pollen and seeded plants were clones of the same mother.
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