I haven't tried CS yet but after seeing a number of Candidas fail to flip with CS I went the STS route. I managed to get a plant to self-pollinate and give me about 60 seeds, but I never got to pollinate its neighboring Candida. I test-spouted 4 and got two to sprout. Better than nothing!The only exception is Candida. Its been a tough nut to crack. Had pollen sacs form once or twice but never got any pollen.