First Grow - White Widow x Big Bud

[grino21]

Hey guys finally got my act together and decided to do a grow journal. If anyone wants to follow along or give me tips or room for improvement that would be greatly appreciated. I'm pretty new still so I'm not sure how to rep or anything either lol!

White widow x big bud (I am growing 5 of these)

Grow tent - 1.2mx1.2mx2m
6" extractor fan and filter
Lights - 250w cfl but changing to dual spectrum 600w hps
Fabric 17litre pots
Canna terra proffesional soil
Temps are usually about 18 -21
Humidity is around 45 - 50
Ph water - I was giving them 6.3 but now 6.6 as I'm in soil
Nuttrients - Sensi grow a+b / sensi bloom a+b

My plants are currently 25 days old from seed, 4 of them are looking good but one off them is trailing well behind. All that I've pretty much done from start to now is put them in jiffys to germinate then I switched them over to plastic cups and because I'm impatient I could t wait I just wanted to get them in there final pots.
Other than that they've been sat in my tent on 18/6 getting water every 2 days or so. Some of the leaves have curled but not sure why that is.

But yeah that's pretty much it if I've missed out please let me know.
I shall post some pics aswell

 

[grino21]

 

[grino21]

 

[grino21]

That's a pic from last night. I'm hitting 3 or 4 nodes on some so the question is fim or top? I was goin to do it in a few days when they have reached 5 nodes but not doing all 5 just in case I fuck up

 

[DreamsOfGreen]

How far is that light from the girls? The advice I've been getting is two inches or less from CFLs. Also have you been rotating your plants? Looks like the one that's trailing might be sitting in some shadows. Or maybe it's genetics; that's the gambling that comes with seeds.

 

[grino21]

Yeh as I've got 5 and there all in big pots it's hard to get the light over all of them so I've sort of put it in the middle. It's about 6 inches from the ones closest. I'd move it further down but then the plants on the side won't receive much light. I've been rotating them each light period so both sides receive equal and I've switched the plants about a little from the side to directly under the light.
Because of all this I'm planning on putting my 600w hps light up in place of the 250w cfl. I was thinking of doin that in about 3 days when they are 4 weeks old from seed. Hopefully this way I'll get a good final week or 2 of veg.

 

[Ghost Post]

Yeh as I've got 5 and there all in big pots it's hard to get the light over all of them so I've sort of put it in the middle. It's about 6 inches from the ones closest. I'd move it further down but then the plants on the side won't receive much light. I've been rotating them each light period so both sides receive equal and I've switched the plants about a little from the side to directly under the light.
Because of all this I'm planning on putting my 600w hps light up in place of the 250w cfl. I was thinking of doin that in about 3 days when they are 4 weeks old from seed. Hopefully this way I'll get a good final week or 2 of veg.

Something I was doing in a Tent grow... and later saw it was being done a lot.
Move the Light like the Sun... This side or that.
Some of the rigs I saw actually moved the light like the Sun throughout the day.
Just a though... if you get that 600 in there... I'd still do it.
Getting light DEEP is important to get bud growth deep.
Otherwise... Nice Canopy
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[grino21]

Hey ghost post I can't see what you put for some reason?

 

[DreamsOfGreen]

Hey ghost post I can't see what you put for some reason?

Try highlighting

 

[grino21]

Yeh ghost post I'll do that I'll move it from side to side every couple hours. Lights come back on in 4 hours so I'll post another pic of them later.

Do you think it would be best to get the 600 hps in as soon as possible for bigger veg growth?

 

[DreamsOfGreen]

I've never used HID, but consensus seems to be that HPS can be used for both flower and veg, but that you'll have a bit more stretching and internodal spacing than if you're running MH. Again I don't have the experience factor here to provide a solid recommendation, but based on seeing some of the more experienced growers here if you can manage the heat I'd say run the HPS. You can keep it further so it will have a bigger footprint, and it gives more intensity so happier girls! Looking good so far whatever you decide, and hopefully someone with more experience can either back me up or give some better advice

 

[Ghost Post]

Yeh ghost post I'll do that I'll move it from side to side every couple hours. Lights come back on in 4 hours so I'll post another pic of them later.

Do you think it would be best to get the 600 hps in as soon as possible for bigger veg growth?

Just like moving them outside in the SUN...
Too much at first will STRESS them.
When I move my Army of Clones outside ,
I will put them by trees to get filtered sunlight.
after a few days...I'll see about moving to their permanent spot,
a sloped area facing South.

So.... If you can DIM the 600 and slowly max it over Time , Your plants will perform better
Something from Left Field ( I live there )
Have you heard of Rodelization ?
It's a way of getting a Feminized SEEDS just by letting a FEW buds stay on the plant PAST Harvest.
Another alternative besides Clones...( I'm germinating some now for my outdoor attack )

 

[grino21]

Sweet man I think I'll switch lights in 3 days then when it's been 4 weeks. I haven't fed them at all yet either so in 3 days I plan on giving them there first feed of 1ml/L of sensi grow A and 1ml/L of sensi bloom a.
I was going to get some cal mag but I've looked up on it and alot of people seem to think tap water has enough cal and mag anyways. Not really sure about this but I'll probably get some anyways.

 

[grino21]

I did forget to say the seeds I have are feminized.

 

[grino21]

I don't have a light dimmer or anything like that just the light the compacta ballast the reflector hood. I may not have heat problems as my tent is in my loft and it's cold up there without the heating on.

 

[Ghost Post]

I don't have a light dimmer or anything like that just the light the compacta ballast the reflector hood. I may not have heat problems as my tent is in my loft and it's cold up there without the heating on.

If you can't DIM it.... You CAN "Filter" the Light...A screen...the type for windows...
If one screen doesn't filter enough... use two etc...

Your adding Bloom already ? Your still in Veg.

Water... I'd avoid Tap... Lake , Rain or Snow has tested the Best... Good PH and low PPM

PS Here's some pix - indoors and out

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[grino21]

Will I need to filter the light? I have lots of height to move my light up and down. And someone on here told me to to use sensi grow a and sensi bloom a for veg and sensi grow b and sensi bloom b for flower?

 

[DreamsOfGreen]

Will I need to filter the light? I have lots of height to move my light up and down. And someone on here told me to to use sensi grow a and sensi bloom a for veg and sensi grow b and sensi bloom b for flower?

Typically you'll see the "grow (a & b)" used during veg and the "bloom (a & b)" used during flower. The only time I've ever really seen a mix is when you're transitioning from veg to flower lighting schedule but flowers haven't set yet

 

[grino21]

That's what I originally thought it makes sense to have a and b grow for veg and a and b bloom for flower. I shall do it like this then. Thanks

 

[donnyd63]

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-Yielder Max Grow Cabinet I purchased from California over 3 yrs ago now. I'm still far from a Master Grower just yet. However I have learned More about Growing here in these Forums than I might have had I literally taken A Horticulture & Botanist Course In University.
I can ONLY DO what's been done for me & that is: Provide Help & Assistance to OTHER Growers as was done for ME.
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3rd time ever Growing White Widow Femz from: Crop King Seeds. Just Cutting them Down today for Curing & conveniently Profiling when the BEST TIME To Harvest Truly Is. I have decided to agree with the -
- Majority of Experienced Growers when they Say "When the white pistils are 40% Darkened Red, That's when to Harvest your Plants!" I wish you ALL The Greenest Grows & Heavy Harvests. Sincerely: Donny D.