VetSmoke Going Coco With The ViparSpectra XS2000

[Greenvein]

@VetSmoke85 I am no good at specific deficiencies but I have suspicions about the decline of the plant if the roots have been subject to excess water over a sufficient period. I didn't learn this lesson last year when I mistakenly overwatered a plant that had been looking great, by giving multiple waterings in response to wilting leaves in the hot sun, for it to then start looking like nutrient issues when the soil should have been good nutrient wise.

This year for me, I trained out bigger canopies in the hot sun and repeated the mistake, the lesson then finally went into my grey matter and I realised my error. And my feeling now is, if the roots are subject to excess water for too long the plant starts looking like it's got nutrient issues, a red herring when the damage has been done by excess water. In your case I have no idea, but I just mention it because of what @greenvein pointed out, in case it relates. The plant I recently buggered looked very bad nutrient wise when it shouldn't have, I chopped off most the damaged stems and now it shows recovery, and has grown new stems and the new growth is all a nice green, which I conclude means the soil is actually fine, that there was actually not a direct nutrient issue, but one bought on by stressing the plant's roots with overwatering. Good luck!

To me this is gold and to point out the reverse psychology of how we manipulate plants for maximum fruit. For example why lollypoping is so effective.. I grow absolute jungles so I know my roots will mimic top growth then cut it all back for flower, now my roots can handle double my top growth.. uptake is maximised, fruits can peak and it will take alot more to stress the plant.
On the flip side if you was to damage your roots or cut them in half they can only supply the top with half of what they need so although back in a healthy zone it will still have to get more nutrition then the roots can supply from somewhere.
That's what I took from stingers post lol maybe extreme as my brain can be but definitely a Plants balance of life.

 

[Greenvein]

Looking pretty crispy and yellow. Bit late for an Easter colour theme. I decided not to water them again tonight. The Autopot trays are bone dry and the top of the coco looks a little dry but the pots are still super heavy. I think letting them go another day will be good for them.

I can just imagine how awesome they'd look if they were still green.

Still so frosty over there!

 

[VetSmoke85]

Happy 420 everyone!

 

[VetSmoke85]

I gave them another watering tonight. Same feed again with 1ml/L calmag, 2ml/L A&B, plus 1.4ml/L 9% H2O2. pH 5.97.

The run off looked much better today. It was a little cloudy yesterday. The ppm coming out had risen slightly to 570ppm.

I think I got distracted with ppm yesterday and forgot to check the pH of the run-off. Today it first came out at around 6.4 and ended up coming out around 6.15. So I think the pH in the coco may have been pretty high. I have to say this way gives you much better control and understanding of what's going on in the media. With bottom feeding you only know what's going in. I think to try it on my first time using coco was a mistake.

So now at least I feel I'm doing everything I can to give these plants a shot at making it. They're still alive at least.

It's gutting because the trunk on this Blue Cheese is by far the biggest I've ever grown. About double the Mac N Cheese one. Measured it at around an inch diameter. That may not seem much to some people, but for me having grown small plants in small pots that is massive. She had the potential to support some really chunky buds.

 

[VetSmoke85]

Flip +32 and it is what it is. Lol. I'll keep pressing on.

 

[Stunger]

The budding looks great, and the bad leaves seem like they may have stopped progressing which is good if that is the case, hope so.

 

[VetSmoke85]

The budding looks great, and the bad leaves seem like they may have stopped progressing which is good if that is the case, hope so.

I'm not sure it has yet but I'm keeping hopeful. I'm concerned the Blue Cheese barely has any trichome development.

 

[Stunger]

I'm not sure it has yet but I'm keeping hopeful. I'm concerned the Blue Cheese barely has any trichome development.

Fingers crossed!

 

[VetSmoke85]

The Mac N Cheese is getting very yellow leaf margins now.

 

[VetSmoke85]

So tonight the ppm going in was around 840 and the run-off was 490-505. I don't understand. They're still going though. It's become more time consuming than I'd like but I'm determined to save them.

Notice the lack of frost on the Blue Cheese.

 

[Greenvein]

Looking good vet definitely still growing!!! How often are you feeding now? It's a good sign it's coming out lower just looks like it may be time to up the fertigations.

 

[VetSmoke85]

Looking good vet definitely still growing!!! How often are you feeding now? It's a good sign it's coming out lower just looks like it may be time to up the fertigations.

Once a day now. Not sure I'll have time to do twice.

 

[VetSmoke85]

They're definitely getting greener again. Just have to ignore the damage.

 

[Stunger]

They're definitely getting greener again. Just have to ignore the damage.

They're definitely are looking greener, but the ends the you really care about are looking nice and frosting up. Sometimes the plants that do it hard have a special potency about them.

 

[Skunksta]

Looking much greener

 

[VetSmoke85]

Reassuring that you guys see it too. The brown tips and patches seem to have got worse but I think that's just the damage that was done showing through now. Hopefully that stops getting worse.

 

[VetSmoke85]

I'd say today is the first time I've felt confident these will make it. After taking off the stuff that had nothing left to give the plant and snipping some crispy bits off, they're a bit easier to look at. Lol.

Thanks all for your support and guidance through this one. Took a while but it looks like we got there in time.

Bit of a baptism of fire to coco, but I've probably learnt more in this grow than a bunch of smooth sailing grows.

 

[Carcass]

Great turnaround, Vet- looks like you got it!
Last week, I had to search for the green in the pics, now I have to search for the yellow...
That's pretty damn cool, Vet- nice job- that has to put a smile on your face- it sure put one on mine..

 

[VetSmoke85]

Great turnaround, Vet- looks like you got it!
Last week, I had to search for the green in the pics, now I have to search for the yellow...
That's pretty damn cool, Vet- nice job- that has to put a smile on your face- it sure put one on mine..

Gotta be honest mate. Absolutely. Definitely a sense of achievement.

 

[ViparSpectra]

You got it Vet!

Bit of a baptism of fire to coco, but I've probably learnt more in this grow than a bunch of smooth sailing grows.