InTheShed Grows Inside & Out: Jump In Any Time

[InTheShed]

Wednesday update without a single cannabis pic, so the pics are linked in for your convenience...and to prevent the slapping of hands (mine).

First up are some aphids on a satsuma flower that I sprayed with 2:9 70% iso/water this morning. Let's see how they look tomorrow!

Next is the lavender pic I promised for @Carmen Ray. This plant was rooted in the cloninator back in September of 2018 and languished in a 1 gallon pot for a long time. Transplanting it has made it (and the bees) very happy!

And finally, this headline/picture combination caught my eye when I was reading the NY Times this morning!


On to the quotes...

I'm sure it's different with cannabis but orchid growers use a 1:1 mix iso/water.

See @dynamo1's conclusions here about 3:9.

I'm going to venture an uneducated guess, if that's ok...
She seems a little darker green than she should be, and, she has got a lot of leaves in the buds...is the N she's getting making her grow more leaves than flowers, or in place of flowers?
I don't really understand your npk numbers,
But that seems like a lot of N you're giving her at this stage. I say it seems like a lot, but I don't really know...
I'm probably way off base, just a thought I had...
She sure is a pretty one, though...

Venture away Carcass, all guesses welcome! And here I thought that color was just good old cheap-nutes green.

Were you thinking that just this plant is getting too much N or that too much N might be the cause generally of the way my flowers are growing? I ask because though it may seem like a lot of N now, I'm currently below what 6.5g/gallon of MC would provide (167-59-217).

I could very well leave it where it is (157-34-181) and let the lowers go...that's what I usually do at this stage. I feel like lowering the N would really lead to some serious cannibalization of the bigger fans. I could be wrong though!

@MrSauga do you have any thoughts on leafy flowers with too much nitrogen? I recall you mentioning it in the past...

if you knew that they had taken that course of action with the DV, why grow that strain? Interesting choice and I don't know anything about that particular strain. Special to you?

WSE pulled the seeds from their site just recently, and those of us growing it here (me, VG, and @Melville Hobbes) were into flower when we found out. Seemed silly to abort the grow at this stage, so we'll just see what we end up with! Melville has the intention of getting his flowers tested and I might do the same, just to see if one of us comes up a winner!

So it seems like something one would want to consume in higher doses. It sounds as if clarity and focused high results from high concentrations, although it does note that it doesn't last as long.

I was interested in it for it's ability to control both appetite and blood sugar (for my diabetic friends). Now we have no idea what the effects will be.

So you actually grow plants based on these types of factors? That's fricking pro. And it begs a million questions which I'll let out over time, lol. But one is, are you aware of any strains that have particularly high THCV while also maintaining high levels of THC? I don't care about CBD.

I do! I have more THC flower than anyone in my house (even my daughter and her boyfriend!) could smoke in 3 years, so there is room to try varieties that will hit different spots. For example, I just purchased hemp seeds that were listed as 13-15% CBGa with under 3% THC and 0% CBD. I'll be growing that for it's medicinal properties, including the recently-discovered fact that CBDa and CBGa both prevent the corona virus from infecting cells in a lab study. VG posted that article here. It also apparently makes for an interesting topical.

And my wife and I both use CBD oil (from my Candida plants) both topically and internally.

Another is, how does one even access this information, by talking directly to the folks who created the strain?

The internet is not only for porn! Any well-crafted google search can bring you researched (and bro-science) articles on what you're interested in.

I absolutely have seen my buds get much more nugworthy since. Fuller individual buds for sure, and I have to say extra frosty too it seems! That's the best part. Second best is the much less trim prison sentence I have to endure! Much better!

Otter! #nolarf FTW.

I hated every second of it.

I would probably grow smaller plants if I didn't have family members come help. Of course, except for my very meticulous son, none of us trim as tightly as you do.

Always entertaining and informative to visit here Shedster! You and Jon really get into the weedz. However, this does not sound promising:

I have no idea what will or will not be promising if and or when I ever get to retire. I will update you if and or when that happens.

I'd be leery on the extension cord part, unless using a proper heavy Guage cord.

Yes, this. Thanks Rex!

Inkbird makes a temperature controller that has two outputs for heat only.

Great recommendation.

Most veggies react to high amounts of N the same way. It can delay flower or produce small fruits since the plant is busy growing leaves. Veggie gardeners say.."P&K feeds the roots and therefore the fruits."

High levels of phosphorus are no longer recommended generally, so they might have to modify that catchy slogan to stay up with the times!

To me it's mostly much more like student/teacher conversations, where the student is simply trying his best to catch up.
Guess who's the student?

I have plenty left to learn!

 

[StoneOtter]

 

[Melville Hobbes]

Wow! I didn't know there had been a member called melville before me! Course he hasn't been seen since 2014...

 

[InTheShed]

Wow! I didn't know there had been a member called melville before me! Course he hasn't been seen since 2014...

Oops! I corrected that in the post.

 

[West Hippie]

Wednesday update without a single cannabis pic, so the pics are linked in for your convenience...and to prevent the slapping of hands (mine).

First up are some aphids on a satsuma flower that I sprayed with 2:9 70% iso/water this morning. Let's see how they look tomorrow!

Next is the lavender pic I promised for @Carmen Ray. This plant was rooted in the cloninator back in September of 2018 and languished in a 1 gallon pot for a long time. Transplanting it has made it (and the bees) very happy!

And finally, this headline/picture combination caught my eye when I was reading the NY Times this morning!


On to the quotes...

See @dynamo1's conclusions here about 3:9.

Venture away Carcass, all guesses welcome! And here I thought that color was just good old cheap-nutes green.

Were you thinking that just this plant is getting too much N or that too much N might be the cause generally of the way my flowers are growing? I ask because though it may seem like a lot of N now, I'm currently below what 6.5g/gallon of MC would provide (167-59-217).

I could very well leave it where it is (157-34-181) and let the lowers go...that's what I usually do at this stage. I feel like lowering the N would really lead to some serious cannibalization of the bigger fans. I could be wrong though!

@MrSauga do you have any thoughts on leafy flowers with too much nitrogen? I recall you mentioning it in the past...

WSE pulled the seeds from their site just recently, and those of us growing it here (me, VG, and @Melville Hobbes) were into flower when we found out. Seemed silly to abort the grow at this stage, so we'll just see what we end up with! Melville has the intention of getting his flowers tested and I might do the same, just to see if one of us comes up a winner!

I was interested in it for it's ability to control both appetite and blood sugar (for my diabetic friends). Now we have no idea what the effects will be.

I do! I have more THC flower than anyone in my house (even my daughter and her boyfriend!) could smoke in 3 years, so there is room to try varieties that will hit different spots. For example, I just purchased hemp seeds that were listed as 13-15% CBGa with under 3% THC and 0% CBD. I'll be growing that for it's medicinal properties, including the recently-discovered fact that CBDa and CBGa both prevent the corona virus from infecting cells in a lab study. VG posted that article here. It also apparently makes for an interesting topical.

And my wife and I both use CBD oil (from my Candida plants) both topically and internally.

The internet is not only for porn! Any well-crafted google search can bring you researched (and bro-science) articles on what you're interested in.

Otter! #nolarf FTW.

I would probably grow smaller plants if I didn't have family members come help. Of course, except for my very meticulous son, none of us trim as tightly as you do.

I have no idea what will or will not be promising if and or when I ever get to retire. I will update you if and or when that happens.

Yes, this. Thanks Rex!

Great recommendation.

High levels of phosphorus are no longer recommended generally, so they might have to modify that catchy slogan to stay up with the times!

I have plenty left to learn!

Wow the CBG that I’ve bought which I’m on my last batch . The wife and I were doing a round spread on a joint since the pandemic came around . All that we had been around we never got Covid . Yes we had gotten a j&j shot and then this year a booster .
It has calming effects also !
New York Times not yet !
I’d already saw VG’s write up great read !
Thanks for all the info very much appreciated
.

 

[Carcass]

Were you thinking that just this plant is getting too much N or that too much N might be the cause generally of the way my flowers are growing?

I was just looking at this one, just because it seems greener than your plants usually look (on camera, anyway)
It's as if there's more sugar leaves than usual, and they're growing larger than they should...which could actually all be genetics, not anything you're doing.
The darker green is what made me think of too much N- but you're actually using less N than I am-so I'm pretty sure my theory doesn't hold any water...

 

[InTheShed]

Wow the CBG that I’ve bought which I’m on my last batch . The wife and I were doing a round spread on a joint since the pandemic came around . All that we had been around we never got Covid . Yes we had gotten a j&j shot and then this year a booster .
It has calming effects also !
New York Times not yet !
I’d already saw VG’s write up great read !
Thanks for all the info very much appreciated
.

I don't recall if they tested CBGa vs CBG (which would have been what you inhaled). I did make CBDa caps to take during the peak of Omicron though. No idea if that's why we didn't catch it or not!

And I'm sure someone will test smoke the CBGa plant just to see what happens, whenever I grow one. Maybe this fall...

I was just looking at this one, just because it seems greener than your plants usually look (on camera, anyway)
It's as if there's more sugar leaves than usual, and they're growing larger than they should...which could actually all be genetics, not anything you're doing.
The darker green is what made me think of too much N- but you're actually using less N than I am-so I'm pretty sure my theory doesn't hold any water...

It's possible that it's genetic (since this thing has been leafy from the get-go) and because my pheno is different from the other two here. It's also possible that this one doesn't like as much N as I'm giving it. I only bumped it because the lowers were yellowing which tells me it's time to bump. Either way it would be nice it if were THCV!

 

[Stunger]

I only bumped it because the lowers were yellowing which tells me it's time to bump.

I had been wavering, but was prompted by your concerns of the lower leaf yellowing of your plants, and decided this morning to give my own plants a very light top dress with a some worm castings to hopefully see them through to harvest.

 

[InTheShed]

I had been wavering, but was prompted by your concerns of the lower leaf yellowing of your plants, and decided this morning to give my own plants a very light top dress with a some worm castings to hopefully see them through to harvest.

Between the poop and the pee, your plants are in love with your worms!

 

[Melville Hobbes]

I don't recall if they tested CBGa vs CBG (which would have been what you inhaled). I did make CBDa caps to take during the peak of Omicron though. No idea if that's why we didn't catch it or not!

And I'm sure someone will test smoke the CBGa plant just to see what happens, whenever I grow one. Maybe this fall...

It's possible that it's genetic (since this thing has been leafy from the get-go) and because my pheno is different from the other two here. It's also possible that this one doesn't like as much N as I'm giving it. I only bumped it because the lowers were yellowing which tells me it's time to bump. Either way it would be nice it if were THCV!

When you look at mine under any light other than the LED in my tent it's actually a lot darker. I was worried that I was overfeeding, but I'm still at 5g per gallon of MC.

 

[InTheShed]

When you look at mine under any light other than the LED in my tent it's actually a lot darker. I was worried that I was overfeeding, but I'm still at 5g per gallon of MC.

You have a nice even green top to bottom, and the only leaves that fade on yours are the ones that never see the light!

 

[Carcass]

Either way it would be nice it if were THCV!

With all those trichomes, it's gotta be something good!
Will your testers be able to tell you if it's THCV, or are you going
to have to have it tested in a lab to know for sure?

in case it isn't....
You can buy THCV Vape carts, but they're only 25% THCV, the rest is delta 8..

 

[InTheShed]

Will your testers be able to tell you if it's THCV, or are you going to have to have it tested to know for sure?

I'd lay money on it being one of two answers, and I imagine everyone knows what those are by now.

You can buy THCV Vape carts

Buy?

 

[BakedARea]

Well I was only here for some of that THCV...or was it CBGV? Now that that is out the windowm. Eh, whatever. Time to find another journal to watch.

 

[Jon]

Wednesday update without a single cannabis pic, so the pics are linked in for your convenience...and to prevent the slapping of hands (mine).

First up are some aphids on a satsuma flower that I sprayed with 2:9 70% iso/water this morning. Let's see how they look tomorrow!

Next is the lavender pic I promised for @Carmen Ray. This plant was rooted in the cloninator back in September of 2018 and languished in a 1 gallon pot for a long time. Transplanting it has made it (and the bees) very happy!

And finally, this headline/picture combination caught my eye when I was reading the NY Times this morning!


On to the quotes...

See @dynamo1's conclusions here about 3:9.

Venture away Carcass, all guesses welcome! And here I thought that color was just good old cheap-nutes green.

Were you thinking that just this plant is getting too much N or that too much N might be the cause generally of the way my flowers are growing? I ask because though it may seem like a lot of N now, I'm currently below what 6.5g/gallon of MC would provide (167-59-217).

I could very well leave it where it is (157-34-181) and let the lowers go...that's what I usually do at this stage. I feel like lowering the N would really lead to some serious cannibalization of the bigger fans. I could be wrong though!

@MrSauga do you have any thoughts on leafy flowers with too much nitrogen? I recall you mentioning it in the past...

WSE pulled the seeds from their site just recently, and those of us growing it here (me, VG, and @Melville Hobbes) were into flower when we found out. Seemed silly to abort the grow at this stage, so we'll just see what we end up with! Melville has the intention of getting his flowers tested and I might do the same, just to see if one of us comes up a winner!

I was interested in it for it's ability to control both appetite and blood sugar (for my diabetic friends). Now we have no idea what the effects will be.

I do! I have more THC flower than anyone in my house (even my daughter and her boyfriend!) could smoke in 3 years, so there is room to try varieties that will hit different spots. For example, I just purchased hemp seeds that were listed as 13-15% CBGa with under 3% THC and 0% CBD. I'll be growing that for it's medicinal properties, including the recently-discovered fact that CBDa and CBGa both prevent the corona virus from infecting cells in a lab study. VG posted that article here. It also apparently makes for an interesting topical.

And my wife and I both use CBD oil (from my Candida plants) both topically and internally.

The internet is not only for porn! Any well-crafted google search can bring you researched (and bro-science) articles on what you're interested in.

Otter! #nolarf FTW.

I would probably grow smaller plants if I didn't have family members come help. Of course, except for my very meticulous son, none of us trim as tightly as you do.

I have no idea what will or will not be promising if and or when I ever get to retire. I will update you if and or when that happens.

Yes, this. Thanks Rex!

Great recommendation.

High levels of phosphorus are no longer recommended generally, so they might have to modify that catchy slogan to stay up with the times!

I have plenty left to learn!

Thanks for the usual detailed response, Shed, most appreciated. I have to say, I haven't seen a ton of THCV info, but then again I haven't looked specifically. Totally get what you said about finding out in flower, and that also explains a lot of the "not sure what we're getting" type comments I've seen that I've asked about a little. Very interesting, and I wouldn't have stopped it either. Assuming I don't want seeds, as long as it doesn't go hermie I'll deal with whatever the plant gives me. Witness the Mystery plant. I have the space and time and don't care what happens, but it would be cool to get an ounce bud from her.

 

[StoneOtter]

Hey Shed so far the 0.5 ml X style cart's vaping flawlessly! The elevation level is something to behold! Woof!

 

[InTheShed]

Hey Shed so far the 0.5 ml X style cart's vaping flawlessly! The elevation level is something to behold! Woof!

Otter! The draw and amount left at the very end should be the true test, yes?

 

[StoneOtter]

Otter! The draw and amount left at the very end should be the true test, yes?

Unless there's something we haven't thought of? That's the X style cart. It's draw adjustable and I like that. I want to test the other style I bought. S or M I forget now. It's less diameter and not draw adjustable. I may need rehab by the end of this testing I hope!

I think I take less hits with this than a flower vape. I'll look at that. Could be healthier?

 

[InTheShed]

Unless there's something we haven't thought of? That's the X style cart. It's draw adjustable and I like that. I want to test the other style I bought. S or M I forget now. It's less diameter and not draw adjustable. I may need rehab by the end of this testing I hope!

I think I take less hits with this than a flower vape. I'll look at that. Could be healthier?

Please let me know when you're out of rehab!

 

[smokesbetter]

Thanks Rexer , i had seen that but was wondering about the one controlling 2 outlet . Will probably try it with a splitter at the female end so no drop cords . Hey shed nice update without pic? Hope your weather is warming up we in the 70s today and an 80 degree day next week with more 70s . The mats are for my veggies right now anyway /!/?