cjsbabygirl313
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Wow @Rexer ! I read through all 26 pages of this and wow - you have totally rocked this grow!
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Rex hooked you up with all the links, but since some folks prefer to have it in front of them:I may have missed it, but what's the recipe for pm?
God I can't wait. Also, that same bud from a different angle and without the angle overlay is BOTM territory. The crystal on that thing! The Somango trichs are already no joke. Nice. Already getting amber here and there too, is that when you drought for best effect? When you see the first sign of amber and the trich window is just now opening? Also, sorry if I missed it, how many days are you droughting for? The break might be nice, lol, all you gotta do is take pictures and post, right? Nothing at all to the plants for the next however many days? No action in any reservoir or whatever? Everything stops? Sorry for so many questions, I'm so curious how you're pulling this off.Drought update:
As promised for tonight, trichome pictures of the Somango pre-drought and tonight's LWA picture.
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Somango Auto
24hrs drought LWA
Flower Day 45
Day 84 above ground
Thanks Jon! The amount of Trichomes on it are beautiful, I'm really looking forward to trying it! Since you had a few questions, I'll break them down so I don't miss any.God I can't wait. Also, that same bud from a different angle and without the angle overlay is BOTM territory. The crystal on that thing! The Somango trichs are already no joke. Nice.
Ideally, I believe that @Maritimer said 3 weeks prior to harvest. Ill touch back on this below.Already getting amber here and there too, is that when you drought for best effect?
it's less about the number of days, vs the Leaf Wilt Angle (LWA) to my understanding. Your looking for a change of 50% in the LWA.When you see the first sign of amber and the trich window is just now opening? Also, sorry if I missed it, how many days are you droughting for?
For the Somango, pretty much. That and pop open a free app called Image Meter, then I just drag the bars to get the LWA photo, screenshot it (cause I'm cheap), and upload.The break might be nice, lol, all you gotta do is take pictures and post, right?
So with the way I have my system, all I had to do was flip a valve on the line that feeds the Somango, and she's isolated from the reservoir. See photo below.Nothing at all to the plants for the next however many days? No action in any reservoir or whatever? Everything stops? Sorry for so many questions, I'm so curious how you're pulling this off.
Me tooSitting on pins and needles over here...
Thanks for the detailed answers. Nice setup, each plant as easy to cut off as that eh? Sweet. Yeah, if you got three weeks more from that Somango I'd be shocked. Still, as you say, data for next time, and also, the drought is still going to make the plant defend itself no matter what. You should still see a trich uptick, for sure I would think, yes? I mean I guess that's the idea, lol.Thanks Jon! The amount of Trichomes on it are beautiful, I'm really looking forward to trying it! Since you had a few questions, I'll break them down so I don't miss any.
Ideally, I believe that @Maritimer said 3 weeks prior to harvest. Ill touch back on this below.
it's less about the number of days, vs the Leaf Wilt Angle (LWA) to my understanding. Your looking for a change of 50% in the LWA.
For the Somango, pretty much. That and pop open a free app called Image Meter, then I just drag the bars to get the LWA photo, screenshot it (cause I'm cheap), and upload.
Today I went ahead and opened up the Bruce Banner Auto more, and tomorrow I'll start trimming the White Berry Auto fans.
So with the way I have my system, all I had to do was flip a valve on the line that feeds the Somango, and she's isolated from the reservoir. See photo below.
The original plan was to use the Bruce Banner Auto, who unfortunately got the PM. With her out of the equation and my misjudgment on the harvest finish times (you were right and called it), I can't say that this truly is the drought experiment that has been carried out. I don't think it'll be three weeks before she's ready.
Here's the flip side of the coin. When doing indoors in soil, Maritimer had an average of 11 days to get his 50% LWA. With this medium, coupled with the low humidity I'm keeping it at...I think it's safe to say the Somango will be droughted much faster.
And while it's not the three weeks that the drought should be done prior to; it'll still be data that will help for the next drought I do. And hopefully that one will be done correctly. And it's still gonna be fun to see.
Anytime- thank you for the questions!Thanks for the detailed answers. Nice setup, each plant as easy to cut off as that eh? Sweet. Yeah, if you got three weeks more from that Somango I'd be shocked. Still, as you say, data for next time, and also, the drought is still going to make the plant defend itself no matter what. You should still see a trich uptick, for sure I would think, yes? I mean I guess that's the idea, lol.
LOL. As if your contributions are ever in question, are you joking?!! You da MAN, Rex. As we say in Phlly.Anytime- thank you for the questions!
Yup each bucket can be turned off and removed.
And with the hydro part it's kinda uncharted territory (as far as I know).
So hopefully there will still be some more trichomes coming as a result.
And while even if this isn't a true run of the drought experiment (and I'm kicking myself there), at least I've figured out an app, and way to upload it to here free to make it easier for those who also want to try.
So I did contribute
So the problem of having a consistent photo has been solved. An easier fix that should have come to me earlier. A simple pencil mark on the scrog Frame to indicate where to rest the phone for the picture. I don't think well when I'm in pain, and I've been running myself hard the last weekAhoy There,
So to not confuse me, please bare with me.
In the photo # 1149 your Turgid leaf wilt angle TLWA was measured at 60@.
After 24 hours drought photo # 258 LWA was measured at 57@.
So after some drought your measurement says the plant is even more turgid (praying hands). To be clear at 60@ TLWA your target for 50% change is LWA 90@. Keep your shots the same distance as much as possible. With this clear view this should be a breeze.
Can you do a morning update? Long time waiting nervous for updates.
After all, your on the dark side of the moon.
yer stowaways mustin refrain leblueThen ya can call me dave.
This leaf?Ahoy There!
Leaf Wilt Measurements from the Wheelhouse
Sorry mate but we be watching a totally different leaf. Your doing fine but we like the next node down left side ferin the records. Keep these same shots coming and were be chartin the course. Keep the crew dry as she has a ways to go. Yar gonna get a promotion after this is over I reckon. Then ya can call me dave.
Image 258 next node down on left TLWA = 73 degrees.
Image 639 same lower node LWA = 83 degrees
Target 50% of 73 = 109 degrees of wilt.
Thanks bluter! This one had a much better start then the last grow.dave's not here man
they're grabbing for the edges like clinging to a cliff.
easy on the N.
pretty otherwise. beauty grow.
This leaf?
Yeah the Somango Auto has been facing some N toxicity for a bit. It's now in the chronic category lol. The other two plants seemed happy with the level of N and despite reducing nitrogen, the Somango didn't fully snap out of it. So I went with majority rules to keep it simple- 2/3 plants were good with the N level. The joys of three different strains/cultivars and one common reservoir (and never having grown any of these cultivars before)
Yep, thats the oneThis leaf?
The reason I didn't select that one is there is a cola just out of view, that it would be able to rest against and skew the measurements. I'll see If I can do some rearrangements when I go back out there tonight to make it more viable.
I am watching both sets. If you can deny the resting point that would be great. The decay of turgidness is not a linear wilt. You could slow down a bit, or wilt could speed up and you will have hit target wilt by morning tomorrow. We want her to put up a little fight before she relents to the lack of moisture that demands her full attention. The question will be does she have enough time to make the changes in hormone synthesis that effect the JA pathways. I think it is possible, possibly even a probability. The recovery period will take on a new importance that I will explain later.