Journeying Into The Unknown With High Brix

[TripleBeam]

Hello all again. This evening there is still no action to report on the five seeds in cups. I went ahead and put eleven more seeds in a wet paper towel and slipped inside a ziploc baggie. Five are from the newly acquired seeds which are the same as what's in the solosoils. The other six are from another source which so far have a poor track record from my grow from six weeks ago. I usually do well in germinating in soil. I guess that's part of the challenge when your dealing with unknown seeds. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Time to catch up on my subbed grows. Triplebeam out.

 

[TripleBeam]

Good News! Three seeds that were in the paper towel and baggie peeked out and said hello to the world. Yay! I immediately pulled out all of the seeds in soil cups and planted the three that wanted to grow. Hopefully I will get a few more to pop and that the first three continue to grow. What a relief to have something progressing forward. Do you guys think I should put a small fan inside the tank?

 

[SweetSue]

Good News! Three seeds that were in the paper towel and baggie peeked out and said hello to the world. Yay! I immediately pulled out all of the seeds in soil cups and planted the three that wanted to grow. Hopefully I will get a few more to pop and that the first three continue to grow. What a relief to have something progressing forward. Do you guys think I should put a small fan inside the tank?

If you have a small fan that might be a good idea to keep air moving.

 

[TripleBeam]

Hello again folks, I now have a total of five germinated seeds to work with. All have been put in cups to continue their journey. I wanted at least five and now I have exactly five so far. Too bad the seeds I wanted to grow didnt sprout at all. They went 0-11 so my volcano test is shot. All of the seeds that sprouted were slightly different and none had volcano ends. I will put the fan in once they grow out of the soil. One final picture below of all buttoned up for the night.

 

[ShiggityFlip]

Hey tripleB! Glad to join up looks like a great assemble of growers here. Be careful of using only dehumidifier water. Some dehumidifiers let out heavy metals with their condensed water. They can build up over time in the soil.

I love to find cool things in people's "discards". I live near a small college so when people move out there is a damn free for all finding the good stuff.

 

[TripleBeam]

Good morning ShiggityFlip, I feel fortunate to have found a very knowledgeable community here at the mag and to have all of you following my grow. I am following everyone's current grows. It can be tough to keep up with all of them but, it's well worth it. my grow will be more interesting soon when I see some plants above ground. They are on their way. I keep peeking. I know it's a risk but curiousity gets the best of me sometimes. I have always been a sponge on topics I have been interested in.
It's official, out of sixteen seeds from two sources I got five to work with. As of last night none were above soil but that might not be the case this morning. I will check on them in a bit.

Update: Numero uno,

 

[Duggan]

Good morning ShiggityFlip, I feel fortunate to have found a very knowledgeable community here at the mag and to have all of you following my grow. I am following everyone's current grows. It can be tough to keep up with all of them but, it's well worth it. my grow will be more interesting soon when I see some plants above ground. They are on their way. I keep peeking. I know it's a risk but curiousity gets the best of me sometimes. I have always been a sponge on topics I have been interested in.
It's official, out of sixteen seeds from two sources I got five to work with. As of last night none were above soil but that might not be the case this morning. I will check on them in a but.

Mornin to ya Beamer! Too bad about such a small % with the seeds. Not sure how ya germ them , but here's a good way most of us use OK. Let them soak in a glass of water over night, (softens up the shell) put between a bunch of folded , wet, paper towels at room temp, in the dark. As SOON as you see the seed split, plant in DBHBB soil right away OK. Don't wait around and look at the lil tap root at all, get them in the soil right away. The built in energy they have is JUST ENOUGH to help them fight their way to the surface thru the soil OK! if your seeds are viable , at all, this method will work . After planting , they will sprout within a week 99% of the time OK!
Cheers bud,...have an awesome weekend !

 

[TripleBeam]

Good afternoon everyone. It's picture time,

I am happy to say that I have four viable plants that are three days old. The fifth seed didn't make it. They have been on a 24/0 light schedule for two days. Yesterday I plugged in the timer and put them on 18/6 schedule. Based on my experience, seedlings flourish better on 18/6 rather than 24/0. This grow backs that up. You might be thinking, 'based on what?' Based on the fact that plants get darkness everywhere else and that they grow in darkness. The plant leaves above doubled in size during the fours hours of darkness before the timer came on. That's it for now. Triplebeam out.

 

[Duggan]

Hey Beamer, ya might wanna consider going to 16/8 instead of 18/6....this is what I've been doing for a few grows now and I've noticed NO difference in growth habbits at all! Just thinkin about hydro costs!

 

[TripleBeam]

Hey Beamer, ya might wanna consider going to 16/8 instead of 18/6....this is what I've been doing for a few grows now and I've noticed NO difference in growth habbits at all! Just thinkin about hydro costs!

Between the two cfls it's 46 watts to run the tank
That's why I use it for seedlings. Over kill to run the tent. I will however be setting that up this weekend. I will post pics when done.

 

[TripleBeam]

Hello all. I am sitting in bed winding down from a very busy day in the garage. I started a task I was looking forward to. Setting up the 5'x5' tent. This time I wanted to rework all the electrical, fan, filter configurations. It's all going to be moved outside the tent besides the filter. Plus put down a barrier between the concrete floor and the tent bottom. Last time it was tent on concrete. Fortunately I remembered to take pictures of the process so that I can share with you all my journey.

First step:
Hit the bong, then make a plan for the first couple steps. Cleaning the concrete floor, moving the T12 hanging above, laying down the three quarter inch plywood, and installing the carpet tiles I got from dumpster.

Now assembling the frame and working the material over the frame.

One extra step I do is binding all the ceiling support bars together with rope for extra strength.

In the next picture on the left is the six inch fan I packed and wrapped in a box to make it quieter which I used to hang inside the tent. Which is now too big to fit where I wanted to move it. On the right is box that would fit in the new location outside the tent. Turns out being a little too small. Luckily I found the perfect size box to replace it.

Inside the old box.

Once I dismantled the old fan box setup, I started mocking up the new box that would accomplish my idea of moving it outside the tent. To do that I needed a ninety degree bend between the fan and my four inch filter.

I used 'L' shaped cardboard box supports and mounted one on each side to support the six inch to four inch metal reducer that would also carry the weight of the carbon filter as well.

Cut the holes in the box for the inlets and outlets of the fan and install the flex hose between the fan and reducer.

Added an extra layer double celled cardboard on the inside and tucked in a blanket around everything and closed it tight with tape.

Next two pictures shows where I installed on the outside of the tent and what it looks like inside.

You can see above where I added white boards between the side posts. Originally I put them there the help keep the tent walls from sucking in too far when I ran a negative pressure air/unsealed room setup. This year I am doing a closed/sealed room configuration and put the boards in for weight supports.

Next was electrical install. Using two boards, I drilled two holes in each board where I could attach them together with zip ties. One board sits on top the tent and the other hangs down the side/back of the tent. First picture is an example while sitting on the tabletop.

Second is on the tent and I added the fan speed controller to the board.

Tomorrow is finishing the electrical, installing the lights, and moving in the plants. That's it for now. See you tomorrow.

 

[DrZiggy]

Awesome tutorial!! (+) reps!

 

[Beavis]

Nice job TB...lots of work but you'll be happy in the end.

 

[Duggan]

Morning Beamer. Thanks for all this bud. Great pics and great explaining. Only one concern,...i know you enclosed the fan to reduce noise,..i get it , but i am a little worried of the fan prematurely burning out from getting too hot. How does it feel after running like that a few hours....you feel good leaving it all wrapped up like that? I had /have similar noise concerns but only wrapped up the 90 duct and the short pc. leading out of the GR. I let the actual fan 'breath'. Also would have liked a 6inch filter instead of the 4 inch , but it will still work. A little tip for your noise issue's too.....run the fan at 70-8- % max OK . it will run much quieter and help your fan/filter combo last much , much longer OK. Better than having it 'screaming' away at full speed unnecessarily! Cheers and thanks again for taking the time for all of us!

 

[TripleBeam]

Good morning everyone. Yes it's after 12pm but I have been working since 9am so for this post I say it's morning.

First things first, need a bong rip.

First picture is the electric panel with everything installed sparing you all the light cords plugged it. Sorry about the angle. I put the tent in its final resting place and didn't want to move it again.

This picture shows the four T12s I installed. Ya I know they aren't ideal for flower. Good thing I'm in the veg stage. Next month I plan on buying a four Cree kit for $400. I used white rope that's rated to hold forty pounds with a nut tied to the end of the rope inside the fixture. Tied knots to make it adjustable up or down. To secure the ropes once in place I used zip ties.

Added the Rolandro 300 watt full spectrum led.

Everything adjusted and leveled out. You might be wondering what the orange box is. That is the laptop that is wirelessly connected to my lan which has a webcam attatched so I can peek in the tent without going into the garage. Maybe one day I might make it publicly accessible.

Next is the monitoring station. I cinched the draw strings of the port around a flat rope lomb and placed a small board on it. I taped the meter to the board. Ran the remote wire in the tent port and that's done.

The next two are shots of the finished tent from two angles.

The money shot.

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[TripleBeam]

Morning Beamer. Thanks for all this bud. Great pics and great explaining. Only one concern,...i know you enclosed the fan to reduce noise,..i get it , but i am a little worried of the fan prematurely burning out from getting too hot. How does it feel after running like that a few hours....you feel good leaving it all wrapped up like that? I had /have similar noise concerns but only wrapped up the 90 duct and the short pc. leading out of the GR. I let the actual fan 'breath'. Also would have liked a 6inch filter instead of the 4 inch , but it will still work. A little tip for your noise issue's too.....run the fan at 70-8- % max OK . it will run much quieter and help your fan/filter combo last much , much longer OK. Better than having it 'screaming' away at full speed unnecessarily! Cheers and thanks again for taking the time for all of us!

The only part I would worry about my fan is the white box on the side. Furtunately the way I positioned the fan in the box and it being oriented the right way on top the tent, I can simply cut the side of the box in the shape of the fan box and expose it to open air. See picture below:

I don't worry about the fan motor getting to hot with all the air flow. I worry if it gets noisy. As for the blanket inside the box, I only draped it over the top of the fan so over half of it is uncovered. The rest was over the flex hose and reducer. Packing peanuts or balls would be better imo. I liked the four inch filter coupled with the power of a six inch fan. The big fan at lower speeds drawing on smaller source. Fast airflow/high performance without running the fan full blast to get the bare minimum performance a four inch fan would do. Plus then if I need a six filter I'm good to go. Just sharing my reasoning with ya.

 

[Duggan]

The only part I would worry about my fan is the white box on the side. Furtunately the way I positioned the fan in the box and it being oriented the right way on top the tent, I can simply cut the side of the box in the shape of the fan box and expose it to open air. See picture below:

I don't worry about the fan motor getting to hot with all the air flow. I worry if it gets noisy. As for the blanket inside the box, I only draped it over the top of the fan so over half of it is uncovered. The rest was over the flex hose and reducer. Packing peanuts or balls would be better imo. I liked the four inch filter coupled with the power of a six inch fan. The big fan at lower speeds drawing on smaller source. Fast airflow/high performance without running the fan full blast to get the bare minimum performance a four inch fan would do. Plus then if I need a six filter I'm good to go. Just sharing my reasoning with ya.

Ok, gotcha ! At least , like you said, if ya wanna go to a 6 inch filter , it's a fast , easy swap! Wondering ,..is that fan really noisy at 70 - 80 % , if left uncovered. No need to worry about that "white box", it's just the junction box for the connections from the cord , to the actual motor. Something else for ya too bud,...try adding some good , thick insulation in the ceiling joist spaces around where the fan/filter is , if that applies. I did this and it helped a lot . Anyhow , your 'on point' with everything , so good on ya sir!

 

[TripleBeam]

Dunking day,
All four got dunked today. Only two needed it but I wanted to see the dry out rates of each plant starting from the same point. I noticed earlier today they looked paler then usual so I was thinking the led might be a little strong for their age. I removed the led and raised the plants until safely as close as I could put them to the T12s. This evening they look better. Greener. So I will give them a week or so before I add the led back in. Below are some pics during watering and the last is a group photo. Enjoy!

 

[TripleBeam]

Good morning. I was up early and decided to check on the tent. I know for sure that dunking is a great method for watering, there is always a burst of growth right after it. Last night til this morning was no exception. Let's do a comparison. Can you tell the difference?
Last Night:

This Morning:

Side project I am doing: Moving the laptop outside of the tent. I didn't like the temperature it ran at inside. I am testing how warm it will run in a fabric grocery bag and if the bag can do the job. So far so good. Leaning laptop towards it's top in the bag allows the bottom to dissipate all the heat out of the bag. The intake fan isn't covered and the exhaust is blowing up and out. Later on today I will hang it from the tent and reattach the camera.

You can actually see that the fan and heatsink is wide open and getting plenty of air. Laterz.

 

[Gazoo]

Good morning. I was up early and decided to check on the tent. I know for sure that dunking is a great method for watering, there is always a burst of growth right after it. Last night til this morning was no exception. Let's do a comparison. Can you tell the difference?
Last Night:

This Morning:

Side project I am doing: Moving the laptop outside of the tent. I didn't like the temperature it ran at inside. I am testing how warm it will run in a fabric grocery bag and if the bag can do the job. So far so good. Leaning laptop towards it's top in the bag allows the bottom to dissipate all the heat out of the bag. The intake fan isn't covered and the exhaust is blowing up and out. Later on today I will hang it from the tent and reattach the camera.

You can actually see that the fan and heatsink is wide open and getting plenty of air. Laterz.

A possible word of caution. I have used those fabric grocery bags and noticed they deteriorate very fast when
left in a hot vehicle, I don't mean overnight but I have had more than one just either split open or handle come
loose. Just sayin I would want a back up safety net or something. My light hoods are all attached with 4 of those
pull type self adjusting hangers, one on each corner, One fails I am still OK if only 2 and one fails hot hood slams
my plants and possibly starts fire causing a bad day