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Round 2: Abandoned Ladies

AdaminCO

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So I pulled some clones from my last grow for a few folks. I guess they all were intimidated by them, so now I have 5 abandoned ladies on my hands.

I reckon I’ll just have to raise them. Lol!
This round we have:
2x TwistaXAfgan
3x OGGrapeXStar47

So I’m reusing the soil from my last grow.
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I ended up breaking down the 7 gallon felts on a tarp, added some Down to Earth Flower, compost, #3 perlite, earthworm castings, and Great White mica, mixed it all up, sprayed with a 36hr compost tea, turned, sprayed... repeated until desirable feel then stored it in a trash can for awhile.
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Besides the compost tea at the initial inoculation at the 5 gallon transplant, I plan on using only sink water (set out for 48hr minimum), mixed with lemon juice (to bring the pH down), 500mg Vitamin C (for Chloramine removal), and Blackstrap Molasses. I will also add BP soluble seaweed/kelp and GW mica every other week, pH’d to 6.2.

I’m clipped the clones July 4th.

How I trim/keep clones:
I only keep clones 6”+. As soon as I cut them I put them into a shot glass filled with water. You can keep them like this for weeks if needed, just keep adding water as they u

When you're ready to plant, you’ll need Jiffy pods, cloning gel, GW mica, clear/red solo cups, sandwich bags, rubber bands/or tape, and your medium.

First I scrape 2-3” from the bottom of the stem until I see white showing through the green layer of the stem to promote root growth. Try not to get too crazy though.

I then use a toothpick to make a hole all the way to the bottom of the Jiffy pod and waller it out some. I dip the scraped clone end into the cloning gel, dust it lightly with GW mica, then push it into the hole in the Jiffy pod.

You can leave them like this until you see roots, then move them to solo cups, but I just went straight to the cups this time.

I fill the solo cup up about a third of the way up with soil, drop the pod in, backfill to the edge of the pod, then add a layer of perlite.

Water thoroughly, then cover with a sandwich bag. You can either tape it, or use a rubber band to seal it up.

July 8th
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Day 3 cut one corner off the sandwich bags, spray clones if needed.
Day 6 cut the other corner.
Day 10 pull the bags off.

July 18th
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If you used the clear cups, you should already be seeing roots. Wait until you have a good amount, then up pot. I only had 1 that didn’t root.

July 29th
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August 11th
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September 6th
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September 16th
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October 2
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More to come.
 
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AdaminCO

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November 2nd - Transplant Day
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I filled the bottoms with clay pellets to help with drainage.
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I filled with soil around the 1 gallon first to create a perfect hole for the transplant.
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I then add GW mica to the hole and the root ball, then sprayed with compost tea.
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I then gently fit it in the hole.
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This time I wanted to try something new with the top cover.
 

AdaminCO

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I’ve been researching different clovers and what I found were three types that I wanted to use for the top cover.

White clovers
Red/Crimson clovers
Yellow (Sweet) clovers
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They all do well with a lot of light and hot climate, but the yellow specifically has a longer root structure, so the idea behind those were to help with watering. With felt pots, I find it hard to keep water from going everywhere, so maybe their roots will help keep the water in. We’ll see what happens.

I put an equal amount of each into each plants top layer, then covered with about a half inch of soil
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Oddly enough the 3 AKs started flowering in the window sill. Since I wasn’t planning on keeping them, I didn’t top them, or really do much of anything but water them.

I went ahead and flipped them officially November 4th.
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Here they are today.
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AdaminCO

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One thing I’m not too thrilled about is that my little friends seem to have found their way into this grow. Lol!

Note to future self...
Don’t pull clones from mite infested plants!

I have been alternating back and forth spraying with Dr. Bonner Castile soap/water and the AgroMagen stuff I used last grow. They seem to be under control now, but will be sure to stay on top of them this time. Such a nite mare.

Yesterday was their first full feed since the transplant. This is the first time I’ve used sink water for my plants.

Here’s what I did....
Filled up a 5 gallon jug with tap water, added 500mg of Vitamin C (to remove Chloramine), 15ml organic lemon juice (bring pH down), 3tbls of Blackstrap Molasses, then I let that sit for 72hrs.

When I’m ready to feed I add4 scoops of BP soluble seaweed/kelp, and 2 scoops of GW mica.

Since I’ve already added the Down to Earth flower blend to the soil mix, this should be all I need to use throughout the flowering stage. This is merely an experiment to see if I can go without major nutrient supplements or making any elaborate compost teas, while using tap water.

We’ll see what they look like when I get home today. Hopefully they like it!
 

AdaminCO

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The ladies look like they don’t mind the change in water. The only odd thing I noticed was with 1 of my Afghans. Some of the older fan leafs went limp. Lol!
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Might be hard to see, but I’m not too concerned with it.

I had a handful of deficiencies on all of them before up potting because I wasn’t really paying complete attention since I planned to give them away (previously mentioned), but they appear to be coming back around healthy since the transplant.

Here is the other Afghan.
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AK
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AK2
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The Crew
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AK3 in the middle is the 1 and 3 leaf mutant like her mom was.
 

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AdaminCO

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Pulling up a chair and reading from the top...
Going out on a limb with this one. If the feeding doesn’t hold up, I may top dress or use recharge or something. They seem happy though.
 

InTheShed

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Good luck! They came in looking hungry so I hope there's enough in the soil to make them happy right away. Are you going to trim them up after stretch?
set out for 48hr minimum), mixed with lemon juice (to bring the pH down), 500mg Vitamin C (for Chloramine removal)
Does your water have chlorine and chloramine? Oh, and make sure your vitamin C is ascorbic acid for the chloramine. I mention it because mine is actually calcium ascorbate.
Crimson clovers
Crimson and clover?
 

AdaminCO

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Good luck! They came in looking hungry so I hope there's enough in the soil to make them happy right away. Are you going to trim them up after stretch?

Does your water have chlorine and chloramine? Oh, and make sure your vitamin C is ascorbic acid for the chloramine. I mention it because mine is actually calcium ascorbate.

Crimson and clover?
I think we’ll be good on the nutes. I forgot exactly the measurement. I think it’s 2tbls per gallon of soil of Down to Earth flower 4-8-4.

I’m cutting the fans that get in the way, but I cut up pretty high already. I’ll probably cut the ones that won’t amount to anything worth trimming later.

Just realized it had this other stuff too.
Thoughts?
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InTheShed

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Looks like you and I take the good stuff! Go down to the local CVS and buy the cheapest C they have. It should be ascorbic acid.
 

AdaminCO

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Looks like you and I take the good stuff! Go down to the local CVS and buy the cheapest C they have. It should be ascorbic acid.
Cool, I just happen to find some above the microwave and went with it. Lol.
How much do you add for 5 gallon jugs?
 

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AdaminCO

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From my notes, 30mg ascorbic acid in 8 gallons of water.
Found this in my research awhile back. It’s a bigger article, but here’s the data I used.

“It takes about 1,000 mg of vitamin C (ascorbic acid form) to remove chloramines from 40 gallons of water”

  • Chloramine Removal:
    Carbon filters remove this chemical but the filter is used up much faster than for other chemicals and takes much longer to do the job. A special form of carbon, “Catalytic carbon”, as it works better than standard carbon (sometimes called Centaur). In other words it will require a larger and more expensive filter to remove it.

  • Carbon filters remove the chlorine portion of the molecule leaving the ammonia behind hence it requires another stage of filtration such as reverse osmosis to remove it.

    Vitamin C filters – For showers this works better than other types at removing chloramines.

  • It takes about 1,000 mg of vitamin C (ascorbic acid form) to remove chloramines from 40 gallons of water.

    Reverse osmosis units do remove chloramines as they generally have a couple carbon filters but they often produce large amounts of salt (sodium) in the water which can also cause problems if used to water plants.

    Double counter top units work better than single stage filters for drinking water(Cool water must be used for these filters to work effectively).

    Note: When chloramines is coupled with chlorine and fluoride the combinednegative effects on plant and soil health is much greater.

    REFERENCES:
    Removing Chloramines from Water, Pure Water Products, LLC.
    Citizens Concerned about Chloramine,
    Chloramine Facts - Citizens Concerned About Chloramine (CCAC)
    Citizens Concerned About Chloramine (CCAC)
    Home - Citizens Concerned About Chloramine (CCAC)

    Alternative Disinfectants and Oxidants Guidance Manual, EPA 815-R-99-014, April 1999
    WHO’s Guidelines for Drinking Water Quality. PDF 145KB
  • Wikipedia – Chloramine
    Chloramines - Wikipedia

    Catalytic Carbons Help Remove Chloramine, by Stephen Spotts
    Calagon Carbon Corporation

    HTG Supplys “Ask The Doc”,
    http://htgsupplyaskthedoc.blogspot.com/2010/04/tab-water-and-chloramine

    “Chloramines Can Kill Your Plants”, http://www.boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/196699-chloramines-can-kill-your-plants

    “Water Problems and Ornamental Plants”
    http://www.grownotes/com/water-quality-plants

    “Watering the Vegetable Garden with CityWater”
    Watering the Vegetable Garden With City Water | Veggie Gardener

    The Case Against Fluoride, Paul Connett, PhD, James Beck, MD, PhD and H.S. Micklem, DPhil, Chelsa Green Publishing, Copyright 2010, ISBN 978-1-60358-287-2
 

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AdaminCO

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InTheShed

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What part bothers you? They all seem to be within range, and there were/are a lot of uranium mines up in your area.

Cute that they add the bit for beer brewers and fish folk!
 

AdaminCO

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What part bothers you? They all seem to be within range, and there were/are a lot of uranium mines up in your area.

Cute that they add the bit for beer brewers and fish folk!
For people that don’t have good water and ranges regulated by a blue state.

Lead
Chloramine
Radium
Uranium
Arsenic
Floride
 

InTheShed

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AdaminCO

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All within range though.
It’s crazy though how much crap is in there. There’s some pretty gnarly history up in the Flat Irons area and the Nature Reserve areas with the military and Shell Corp. Very unique state.
 
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