The Advanced DS XML 650 LED - A Review By Doc Bud

[millertm]

Lovely work or business as usual which ever you choose. Nice garden Doc.

Cheers

Sent from my SPH-L720T using 420

 

[SlowToke]

Lot's of first time growers are getting results similar to mine. Some longtime growers are getting better results! You can do it too.

Make sure your environment is good, order a kit, cook some soil and join the fun!

Doc's absolutely right, Reddog! I've never grown anything worth a damn in my life, and with the kit my first real grow is coming out really well. Not as nice as Doc's work for sure, but I'll take it!

Grab a kit now. You won't regret it!

 

[Doc Bud]

I hope to have some pics today. Things look amazing.

 

[Reddog99]

Doc's absolutely right, Reddog! I've never grown anything worth a damn in my life, and with the kit my first real grow is coming out really well. Not as nice as Doc's work for sure, but I'll take it!

Grab a kit now. You won't regret it!

Would the kit let me grow clones that have no roots??

 

[SlowToke]

Would the kit let me grow clones that have no roots??

What I do is take cuttings, root them in peat plugs, then transplant to the kit soil. The kit has components that help develop roots when transplanting.

 

[Reddog99]

I was just joking Slowtoke. The clone in a pot a friend gave me to grow had no roots. It took me two weeks to figure it out and that was after it had died. But it was all for the best. If it had grown, then I think high summer temps would have gotten it. I'll re-try after the summer heat passes.

 

[SlowToke]

Gotcha. I thought you were calling a cutting a clone. D'oh!

 

[Doc Bud]

Here's what the Advanced 650's are up to:

A pic of every plant under the lights.

 

[The Dealer]

Amazing

 

[cobblepot]

Love your work mate, ive got an xte 300 I'm pretty happy with

iggy wiggy I'm feeling jiggy

 

[Doc Bud]

 

[Scop]

Fresh pics. So nice

 

[danereynolds]

Wow great grow Doc! How close/far do you keep the lights from the top of the canopy? Have you experienced light burn from getting too close? Thanks!

 

[Doc Bud]

Wow great grow Doc! How close/far do you keep the lights from the top of the canopy? Have you experienced light burn from getting too close? Thanks!

Yep. I've experience bleached tops on most of my LED crops. These tops are about 18 inches below the lights. Not much bleaching so far.

I'm using about double the light recommended....which is how I always do it, no matter what tech I'm using.

 

[dunkindabs]

Technical stuff:

Wattage:
Avg. Power Draw is 618 watts
Avg. Amp Draw is 5.15 amps

LEDs:
We use 10w Cree XM-L2 which is a warm white. and we use 3w Single Chip LEDs in the square sections.

Are those led's sun spectrum? If not do you know what they are?

 

[danereynolds]

Thanks!! At how many inches away do you start seeing bleaching? Also, do you find that it's better to get the light closer and get some bleaching than to keep the lights at 25-30 inches away to avoid bleaching?

 

[Graytail]

Don't bother with excess light unless the rest of your environment is dialed in. If your humidity, temps and air quality aren't top notch, more light is just as useful as more water - ie, not very useful.

Doc has a very tightly controlled environment, with CO2.

Work on the weakest link first. That usually isn't lack of lighting.

 

[Doc Bud]

Thanks!! At how many inches away do you start seeing bleaching? Also, do you find that it's better to get the light closer and get some bleaching than to keep the lights at 25-30 inches away to avoid bleaching?

There always seems to be some bleaching. It's not always the highest points. I think a mover is probably the best fix for bleaching.

I find using massive amounts of light, high C02 and keeping them up a bit higher, rather than a bit lower works well, but there are always a few albino nugs.

 

[Doc Bud]

Don't bother with excess light unless the rest of your environment is dialed in. If your humidity, temps and air quality aren't top notch, more light is just as useful as more water - ie, not very useful.

Doc has a very tightly controlled environment, with CO2.

Work on the weakest link first. That usually isn't lack of lighting.

Absolutely!

Like I've always said: "Nothing is more important than the environment."

Dial in your environment. Control the weather. Take no crap from hot, cold, moist or dry. Make it perfect.

Then worry about lights.

 

[medmanmike]

Yep. I've experience bleached tops on most of my LED crops. These tops are about 18 inches below the lights. Not much bleaching so far.

I'm using about double the light recommended....which is how I always do it, no matter what tech I'm using.

Doc, how tall are these plants? You typically flower your clones when they're around 12-18", right?