They were dissed, now they're pissed! Revenge of the Culls!

[Setting Sun]

Re: they were dissed, now they're pissed!........ Revenge of the Culls!

Nice work Sun! Fascinating side grow... always a pleasure to tune in.

Always a pleasure to have you tune in .

thanks man!

 

[Setting Sun]

Re: they were dissed, now they're pissed!........ Revenge of the Culls!

Its nice to know your checking the true output of these lights. +rep

I'm going to be doing that for the upcoming 300w LED vs 400w HID grow and reporting the actual watts.

Actual watts for the HGL light was a few watts lower than 126, so I could be a whiny little beotch and insist that we adjust the g/w accordingly, lol.

but I won't be

 

[mary_juana420]

For now, Screw LED's !!

Looking Good SS !

MJ420

 

[wizewizo]

Re: they were dissed, now they're pissed!........ Revenge of the Culls!

This is a chart that Propa Gator sent me a while back for vertical bare bulbs and distances. According to this chart, I need about 9-10" if I'm not running CO2 or A/C, and my cab is 25" wide. With the bulb hung in the center, that leaves maybe 3" of room on each side for the plants. Might work with vertical screens and lots of tying, but that's not much room.

www.VerticalHerbs.com, Tools and information you need for better growing.


Thanks MH

Ye, I was really worried about bleaching and what not with my new set up in the spinner. I have a 600w hps in there are quite a few nodes that have shot out there and are no more than 5" away from it with zero sign of bleaching or stress at all. But I imagine the constant rotating of the plants is what saves them from experiencing this.

 

[Setting Sun]

Re: they were dissed, now they're pissed!........ Revenge of the Culls!

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THANKS FOR DOING THE SIDE SHOW !! I'D HAVE BEEN WONDERING FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE, . HA !! GOOD SHOW BUDDY !!

thanks Slow!

Glad to do it

As soon as culling two plants became one of the "rules", I started eyeballin' my cab, lol

This side-show, side-grow was a great shake-down cruise for my cab. I got to try several different lighting options and also got the ventilation issues sorted out.

I think I'll be using it a lot.

take care brother

 

[Setting Sun]

Re: they were dissed, now they're pissed!........ Revenge of the Culls!

little late to the party.
nice recap. . . exactly what i was hoping to see.

wheelo!

glad too see you early, late, middle, whenever .

hmmm. . . 90 grams from 1/2 the plants. . . . seems like cfl is the better bang for the buck for sure.

i like the led side lighting. . . lol, want to say a joke about it being the right place to use it, but it probably wouldn't be funny anyway.

LED tech is evolving fast and costs should drop significantly, but I agree that currently CFL is the best bang for the buck.

I think some folks got the idea that because I tested LED's, I'm a proponent of LED's, which I'm not, because I have no loyalties or emotional attachments to any specific lights or technology.

The only thing I'm a proponent of are technologies or products that provide workable and cost-effective solutions.

and mega-burritos.

 

[Setting Sun]

Re: they were dissed, now they're pissed!........ Revenge of the Culls!

Ye, I was really worried about bleaching and what not with my new set up in the spinner. I have a 600w hps in there are quite a few nodes that have shot out there and are no more than 5" away from it with zero sign of bleaching or stress at all. But I imagine the constant rotating of the plants is what saves them from experiencing this.

Is the bulb completely bare or in a glass cool-tube type arrangement?

 

[wizewizo]

Re: they were dissed, now they're pissed!........ Revenge of the Culls!

Is the bulb completely bare or in a glass cool-tube type arrangement?

Completely bare!

 

[Setting Sun]

For now, Screw LED's !!

Looking Good SS !

MJ420

stay tuned, because the next 420Mag hosted grow will be a comparison of a 300w LED panel and a 400w HID.

It's possible that this one may have a different ending.

thanks brother

 

[Setting Sun]

Re: they were dissed, now they're pissed!........ Revenge of the Culls!

Completely bare!

Interesting, maybe the constant rotation, as you mentioned, is what's keeping them from getting burned.

I did see the pics of your spinner on I think wheelo's journal.

It's just beautiful!

Your construction skills rock!

 

[OldMedMan]

High Sun Nice cull grow!

You didn't include a comparison smoke report, so I am assuming one is just as potent as the other

Love to watch you grow an make changes on the fly. Your a pro Buddy.

 

[Setting Sun]

I'm diligently working on the comparison smoke report even as we speak .

thanks for your encouraging and kind words OMM

 

[MountainHigh]

Hey bro, I am bad at guessing distances...so I finally broke out a yard stick....my 150w is sitting 6 inches above my canopy, but I don't have all that reflection....wish my head could wrap around some way to calculate the effect of being surrounded by reflected light and how that would add up....

And wow, my chart is bad...and guess who got a new bookmark, thanks....

Now I know why my setup works....I thought I was way low on the acceptable lumen scale...the canopy under that HPS is at near max foot-candles.....

BTW thank you bro for keeping these pics patiently all this time.....

 

[Slowpuffer]

Re: they were dissed, now they're pissed!........ Revenge of the Culls!

thanks Slow!

Glad to do it

As soon as culling two plants became one of the "rules", I started eyeballin' my cab, lol

This side-show, side-grow was a great shake-down cruise for my cab. I got to try several different lighting options and also got the ventilation issues sorted out.

I think I'll be using it a lot.

take care brother

I ran a 400 watt hid in a cabinet 2.5 X 3 X 4.5 high. You just got to air cool the bulb. You can get a complete air cooled light, hood and ballast for a little over 200 bucks. And now i'm running a 400 hid in a tent 4X4X7, and it's a open reflector and i'm running about 85/ 75. I know the lights on temp is a little high, but i'm getting good results. But the temp in New England is a little cooler that Ca. !! Ha !! Do you leave windows open in your garage ?? Was 91 here yesterday and that's a new state record !! Woo Hoo !! Should be around 55 now, but weather pattern is like changing everywhere. SS, i'll be watching for your next grow !! And thanks for being who you are !!

 

[Setting Sun]

hmmmmmmmmmm, never thought about running an air-cooled hood in there because it's a small cab, 2.1 X 1.5 X 3.2 high, but a small cool-tube might fit OK. Thanks!

Weather is warming up and should be good for the next grow. I don't leave windows open, but in the warmer months, when I don't need to conserve heat in there, I open the main garage door every day to help exchange the stale air for fresh.

91 in New England! Yeah, the weather is getting weird all over it seems.

thanks slow, glad you'll be following the next grow!

 

[Setting Sun]

The buds have cured nicely and smell/taste great!

They seem to have a stronger aroma and more character now that the excess chlorophyll has cured out. Still earthy and musky, but much more appealing now.

 

[1234a5678b]

hmmmmmmmmmm, never thought about running an air-cooled hood in there because it's a small cab, 2.1 X 1.5 X 3.2 high, but a small cool-tube might fit OK. Thanks!

Check out Sunlight Supply's 'SUPER SUN'. It should fit. They make a 4" flange kit that should adequately evacuate the heat from a 250 in that area, maybe even a 400 if you have enough air flow.

PS: Nice Bud!

 

[Doc Bud]

The buds have cured nicely and smell/taste great!

They seem to have a stronger aroma and more character now that the excess chlorophyll has cured out. Still earthy and musky, but much more appealing now.

I have a smoke report from some buds remarkably similar to this over on my Lucky journal.

 

[WheeloFortune]

fantastic bro. looks absolutely delish.

 

[Setting Sun]

Hey bro, I am bad at guessing distances...so I finally broke out a yard stick....my 150w is sitting 6 inches above my canopy, but I don't have all that reflection....wish my head could wrap around some way to calculate the effect of being surrounded by reflected light and how that would add up....

Reflected light is sort of a crap shoot, and can even nullify itself to zero energy if reflections are 180 degrees out of phase. All the bouncing around in our grow spaces could be confusing to plants that expect direct light.

Some reflections add up, some cancel out. I think if we could actually see the losses, more of us would be thinking about vertical growing with 360 degree direct light.

BTW thank you bro for keeping these pics patiently all this time.....

thank you for appreciating how hard that was to do