Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2

[Blue Planet Nutrients]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

I like the high level of CO2 method of killing mites. You will kill the current crop but their eggs will hatch so you will have to repeat. just don't stay in the room and when finished, air out really well.. do you have a big CO2 tank?

 

[jandre2k3]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

I like the high level of CO2 method of killing mites. You will kill the current crop but their eggs will hatch so you will have to repeat. just don't stay in the room and when finished, air out really well.. do you have a big CO2 tank?

I have a yest CO2 brewer. It has only gotten to 1000ppm so far, and that's with the lights, and extraction fan off for 4 hours.

Here's the link: DIY CO₂ Generator

 

[jandre2k3]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

So the Jandre Kush is mostly sativa? Just asking because of the flowering time

It's a Kush. The way it grows, I'm thinking of making it all hash, or oil for vaping... Have about 1 or 2 weeks left on Side B: Last time it went 114 days.

Edit: there could be a definite sativa influence in there... I just realized I'm at week 11.

The base lineage is pre '98 Purple Kush, but it got pollinated by something else in the grower's flower room. We thought it was Purple Kush, but after seeing this thing grow all throughout flower, and the long flower times, I'm thinking that his Lamb's Bread pollen got in there, somehow.

Lamb's Bread can go as long as 125 Days for full ripeness, and 5% amber.


But, then again, I could just need to change out the bulb because PAR has gone off... I got this hood/bulb used, so who knows. Next run I'll put a new HPS bulb in and see how things grow.

 

[WizHigh]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

I was thinking the same thing with my Cheese Wiz Kush. It seems like long flowering days ahead. Very similar growth with flowering as yours. I'm going to go back threw your journal to check out day 40 of flowering of the Jandre Kush to see what it looks like.

 

[Blue Planet Nutrients]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

it needs to be way higher than 1000 ppm. we are talking thousands of ppm. elevated levels of CO2 are not that unsafe for humans as long as you shut the door to your room and be sure to air it out well and stay away from it when you are finished. CO (carbon monoxide) is what is the killer. I don't know how much a tank is but it may be worth looking into. A tank of CO2 is always something good to have around. then, you can always purchase a regulator later on and have an elevated co2 environment at all times!

 

[WizHigh]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

it needs to be way higher than 1000 ppm. we are talking thousands of ppm. elevated levels of CO2 are not that unsafe for humans as long as you shut the door to your room and be sure to air it out well and stay away from it when you are finished. CO (carbon monoxide) is what is the killer. I don't know how much a tank is but it may be worth looking into. A tank of CO2 is always something good to have around. then, you can always purchase a regulator later on and have an elevated co2 environment at all times!

I need to upgrade to a 50 pound soon.

 

[NorCaliwood]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

Jandre dry weed. You know what I do to rehydrate my over dried weed? Tape a piece of apple or pear to the top of your jar and close your jars. Or throw a wet bud from another plant in with it. GL and Keepem Green oh BTW that a total release spray. They even have a unit called plurge 2 I think. Time released sprayer. Keepem Green

 

[Xlr8]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

"Humidipaks" bring dry weed back too. They do a pretty nice job of keeping everything at the right humidity as long as you use the right size for the jobs. I use 3-4 small size for a quart size jar, but they also make larger ones. They have a newish 62% that was designed specifically for medical cannabis - that's what I use. I used to throw a cut stem or three in the freezer after a harvest, in case I wanted to use it to add hydration to a jar that got too dry, but I just use the Boveda "humidipaks" now. I keep them in all my jars once they are dried/burped sufficiently, just to keep things where I want them. I'll never go back, love them things!

 

[jandre2k3]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

"Humidipaks" bring dry weed back too. They do a pretty nice job of keeping everything at the right humidity as long as you use the right size for the jobs. I use 3-4 small size for a quart size jar, but they also make larger ones. They have a newish 62% that was designed specifically for medical cannabis - that's what I use. I used to throw a cut stem or three in the freezer after a harvest, in case I wanted to use it to add hydration to a jar that got too dry, but I just use the Boveda "humidipaks" now. I keep them in all my jars once they are dried/burped sufficiently, just to keep things where I want them. I'll never go back, love them things!

Got some on order already.

 

[WizHigh]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

"Humidipaks" bring dry weed back too. They do a pretty nice job of keeping everything at the right humidity as long as you use the right size for the jobs. I use 3-4 small size for a quart size jar, but they also make larger ones. They have a newish 62% that was designed specifically for medical cannabis - that's what I use. I used to throw a cut stem or three in the freezer after a harvest, in case I wanted to use it to add hydration to a jar that got too dry, but I just use the Boveda "humidipaks" now. I keep them in all my jars once they are dried/burped sufficiently, just to keep things where I want them. I'll never go back, love them things!

I ordered a 12 pack a month ago for $8

 

[CronicHempHog]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

hrm i just bought one of those usb scopes on amazon X was talking about and forgot all about that humidipaks

 

[Electricthom]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

Just caught up J, looking spectacular. I like to use a small piece of citrus peel, lime give a very mild hint of smell that is nice and gives me an excuse to mix a drink after dinner. I feel Apple leaves a taste to the bud that I am not fond of but its all the same idea, like a damp sponge in the humidor for cigars.

 

[jandre2k3]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

I used to use Citrus Peels as well... Gives a nice refreshing "je ne sais quoi" in the smell later. The best thing, however is just not to let your bud over-dry on the line before jarring.

But the Boveda Humidipacks are going to be here, Tue, and we'll have it all sorted... 62% packs FTW!

 

[jandre2k3]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

Okay, I heard a nasty rumor from my herp (reptile and amphibian dealer) that our beloved hydroton expanded clay pellets were discontinued. This concerned me as a hydroponic grower, and as you all know, I'm not one to go by what one person says, so I decided to do some research. I have found that MANY people are talking about this very topic, and with an inquiry into the product at my local hydro store, I am now certain that the rumors are true. They said they got a letter from their supplier stating that it, in fact, had been discontinued; but rest assured, they have 20 palates of the stuff and will not be running out any time within the next few months...


Below is a "paste" of a letter I recently read on the subject. I decided to post it here because of the alternatives given, so that we hydroton lovers do not despair.

What Are My Alternatives Now That Hydroton is Discontinued?

We've heard rumors for some time regarding the discontinuation of Hydroton, and we recently received confirmation from one of our suppliers in the form of the following letter. It was pretty succinct and informative so we just decided to post it here.

The short of the story is that Hydroton has indeed been discontinued by the manufacturer due to a lack of source material (the right kind of right clay), but all is not lost! There are a number of great alternatives to Hydroton; some alternatives are nearly identical to Hydroton while others are physically very different but provide substantially similar benefits and grow qualities.

Sunlight Supply Letter Regarding Hydroton Being Discontinued:

Dear Valued Customer,
In the recent past Sunlight Supply, Inc. received email correspondences from Mr. Rudolf Sittig from Hydroton in Germany to announce the discontinuance of Hydroton as a product offering us an explanation as to the circumstances surrounding this unfortunate decision.
As we understand it, Okotau the German name of the company itself (Hydroton is the product name), has closed its business servicing the horticulture industry after 27 years. The clay mine in South Germany was closed down because it ran out of the special clay necessary to manufacture the horticulture grade Hydroton. Further, an alternative mine was able to produce the product however the nature of the clay was different and as such did not meet the required specifications for the manufacture of the Hydroton product.
The following is an excerpt from Rudolf's letter to us [Sunlight Supply, Inc.]:​

"Since the original manufacturing plant was closed down at the end of March, the expanded clay from their alternative plant is made from different clay which does not, according to our samples, result in a similar quality. As our laboratory results from our samples show, the amount of salt and other parameters are beyond the limits of 'Fischer-Penningfeld'. These investigations are long and very positive cooperation. For your future we wish you all the best."
​

"Fischer Penningfeld" (University standard) is the worldwide known standard for Hydroculture.
Drawing the conclusion out of this situation we decided to stop selling Hydroton as the parameters of quality are no longer secured.
However, we have 5 alternatives to present to our customers today:
#1 Mother Earth Hydropebbles:

Of the qualifying alternatives Hydropebbles, our new trademarked brand name, is the most similar to the traditional Hydroton we are all used to. Its overall size, shape, consistency and feel are very similar to Hydroton. However, while Hydroton had a rusty red color to it, Hydropebbles are more brownish in color appearance. It will be available in all warehouse locations in 1-2 weeks. We are using the same product item number as Hydroton. Pricing is identical to Hydroton by location. The bag size is 50L (please be aware our competitors bag size is 45L), the bags are clear. The weight per bag is 55lbs and the bags per pallet is 50 (Hydroton was 30).
Hydropebbles - 50L (714120): Compared to normal soil, Hydropebbles offers many advantages. The material is not only completely clean and odorless, it is the ideal round shape. Hydropebbles ensures good root aeration, prevents rotting, prevents excess acidity and prevents soil pests. It is made of clay with high water storage properties and balanced capillary action to accelerate plant growth.

#2 Gold Label Brand Hydrocorn

Formerly called Gold Label Hydro Korrels. Item # 713750. These clay pebbles come from Holland and have the very similar rusty red color appearance as Hydroton. This media has a more varied shape than Hydroton which some have reported as favorable due to its ability to interlock.
Gold Label - Hydrocorn - 50L (713750)[/URL]: Gold Label Hydrocorn is manufactured using a mix of the best quality pure clay and are baked in an open furnace using high grade clean fuels, guaranteeing absence of heavy metals or other contaminates. Gold Label Hydrocorn proudly carries the RHP for horticulture quality certificate. The unique uneven shape of the pebble is an ideal surface for roots and beneficial bacteria. The porous structure has a high water capacity and is suitable for both ebb/flood and top irrigation systems.

#3 Gold Label Brand Custom 80/20 Mix

80/20 is 80% Hydro Korrels and 20% Coco with added mycorrhizae. The sodium and chloride contents are extremely low for a coco substrate, ensuring a stable behavior throughout the use. Mixed with 80% Gold Label Special Mix Hydro Korrels which is the substrate of choice for the professional hydroponics grower around the world.This substrate was specially developed for serious gardeners growing heavy feeding plants and is the tested and recommended growing medium for the Flo-n-Gro system.


#4 Hydrolite By Botanicare

This new media comes in 2 sizes as indicated below and can be used successfully as a stand alone media as well as to amend other soil and hydroponic mediums. Made in the USA.
Hydrolite is a natural, silica-based, volcanic mineral with a unique, porous, crystalline structure which allows it to hold nutrients until plants need them. Hydrolite's ability to retain essential plant nutrients and aerate the growing medium makes it an ideal amendment for both hydroponic systems and soil gardens.​

• Improves aeration and is highly porous.​
• 70% silicate and does not float.​
• Retains nutrients and is reusable.​
• Nutrient charged to balance CEC.​

#5 Growstones

This new media is a new up and comer. This is a new technology product. It is a green environmentally friendly, porous media made from 100% recycled glass. Made in the USA.
Growstones Hydroponic Substrate is the perfect growing media for use in hydroponic growing systems as simple as manually irrigated containers, or as advanced as automatically drop irrigated containers, Ebb-Flow systems, and NFT tables. It replaces strip-mined materials like Hydroton or stonewool, reducing environmental degradation. Growstones are designed to allow for rapid moisture absorption and enhanced drainage and oxygenation.​

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Representatives from our company [Sunlight Supply, Inc.] have had more recent correspondence with Rudolf within the last few weeks. At this time there are no foreseeable plans to reintroduce Okatau branded Hydroton. If this changes we will certainly let you know.
For the time being, we are hopeful that one or more of these 5 products we distribute will serve to fill your needs.
...​

 

[jandre2k3]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

Shitz and Giguls have been harvested, hung for 3 days, and are now in the cure. 4.9g. These were the two very small Purple Mr. Nice. They flowered for 83 days and went a light haze of purple without cold treatment.





I will be flowering this one again and again... I will let further flowering go for about 90 days to try and see if they go even further purple.

 

[Buckshot]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

I will be flowering this one again and again... I will let further flowering go for about 90 days to try and see if they go even further purple.

Beautiful!! The conditions in my room seems to favor purple at the moment

 

[BigIrishDoode]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

pretty mr purple, i wish i had a purple in flower right now as it gets mighty cold in the tents as of late as low as 49f if the fireplace goes out at night, i do have several blues we'll see what they do, sorry ive neglected you J just been lots going on

 

[jandre2k3]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

Beautiful!! The conditions in my room seems to favor purple at the moment

Thank you! Hey, if they favor purple, accentuate the positive!

pretty mr purple, i wish i had a purple in flower right now as it gets mighty cold in the tents as of late as low as 49f if the fireplace goes out at night, i do have several blues we'll see what they do, sorry ive neglected you J just been lots going on

WHAT?!?! No P#1? Damn, bro!

 

[Electricthom]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

Looks great J, got my temps down to 60 but GDP and grape stomper have yet to show me any color.

 

[OldMedMan]

Re: Jandre2k3's Cardboard Flowerbox - 41 Week Perpetual SOG Part2 - Blue Planet Nutri

Okay, I heard a nasty rumor from my herp (reptile and amphibian dealer) that our beloved hydroton expanded clay pellets were discontinued. This concerned me as a hydroponic grower, and as you all know, I'm not one to go by what one person says, so I decided to do some research. I have found that MANY people are talking about this very topic, and with an inquiry into the product at my local hydro store, I am now certain that the rumors are true. They said they got a letter from their supplier stating that it, in fact, had been discontinued; but rest assured, they have 20 palates of the stuff and will not be running out any time within the next few months...


Below is a "paste" of a letter I recently read on the subject. I decided to post it here because of the alternatives given, so that we hydroton lovers do not despair.

The last I could find here are Growstones......they are crap, broken and dirty. Yuck!